Me, spilling out all my thoughts, inner and outer, on just about anything! Lots of poetry, short stories from past experiences, anecdotes about teaching elementary school, music, relationships....garage sale type thing...Something For Everyone!

Sunday, May 27, 2007

Dr. David Suzuki

Most of us know Dr. David Suzuki from watching him host the television program, "The Nature of Things" for as long as we can remember. He is one of the the best speakers I have ever heard. He sounds like a strong minister delivering a message he is passionate about and indeed he is one of sorts; he has been "Ministering" about the environment for a very long time. If we weren't then, we are certainly listening more intently now to what he has to say.

David Suzuki is a very powerful yet down-to-earth speaker with a great sense of humour. He is a vegetarian who eats fish and when asked about chicken, he quoted someone as saying, "Chickens are just low-flying vegetables"! Guess he eats some the odd time!

Suzuki had many analogies for the terrifying stats and repeatedly made references that it is all "humans" who did this by "buying" into the greed and ever-increasing desire for acquiring "stuff" and that the economists/politicians condone this. (He was appalled when Bush's response to 9/11 was that he told everyone to get shopping to get the economy going.)

He said the increase in living space /human is just a gross misuse of energy and now we have something like one washroom per person in houses. To paraphrase, David said something like,
"I grew up with 4 sisters in a 1000 sq. foot house with just one washroom and he can't remember ever pissing his pants waiting to get in to use it!"

David Suzuki did make us realize the folly of our collective greed and how things have changed in just one generation and you can see it is directly related to the situation now with energy resources and the state of our land, water, and air.

Now I feel guilty! We really have to at least buy a smaller, more fuel efficient SUV next time. (presently we own one car, a '98 Nissan Pathfinder) We only need the space for a few weeks a year and for that, we can devise some other way to take all we have to for trips. Our building is large, but to our credit, we have used it for both living space and an occupational office.

He drove home the fact that we have the brain power that initially made us different from every other species, to give us foresight to see what's ahead and adapt, but we all have to make some very important decisions about the environment now.

Suzuki went on to say that the window of time is very small and our resources; land, air and water, are fixed ... they never grow ... so our use of them must not grow either. Boosting our economy in order to fill our "need and greed for more stuff", simply can not happen and have our earth continue to sustain life.

I'd love to know what it will really be like 30 or 40 years from now. He said to ask our elders about how they lived and learn from it. They passed that world on to us and look what we are handing our's unrecognizable. David said he can't even take his grandson to the same place fishing as his grandfather took him because there are no fish there.

I liked how he was encouraging and optimistic, but I'm not sure we can do what is needed. Our present way of life is just so deeply ingrained. We are too used to our "stuff".

Check the site: and sign up to join the Nature Challenge

These are the 10 basic things he outlines there that we can do for a good start:

1. Reduce home energy use by 10%

2. Choose an energy-efficient home and appliances

3. Replace dangerous pesticides with alternatives

4. Eat meat-free meals one day a week

5. Buy locally grown and produced food

6. Choose a fuel-efficient vehicle

7. Walk, bike, carpool or take transit

8. Choose a home close to work or school

9. Support car-free alternatives

10. Learn more and share with others

Labels: , ,


Blogger twilite said...

Hi MOI! I follow David Suzuki too. He is Japanese by descent? I have great respect for the Japanese as they know how to conserve and preserve; their homes are small but neat...for the older generation though.

I like advice no.5...'buy locally grown and produced food' -- though a little expensive but at least we know what is put in it and how it is grown. I'm a proponent of buying locally produced food and products. Great write.

Sunday, May 27, 2007

Blogger Jocelyn said...

Great summary of his points--and a good demonstration, in that list, of how easily we can actually make an impact.

When I think about this ever-growing destruction of the world, I get sick about it inside. Thanks for reminding me there are positive ways to try to effect change.

Sunday, May 27, 2007

Blogger OldOldLady Of The Hills said...

Wonderful Post! I have to go check jis website out! A very interesting and thoughtful man, for sure!

Sunday, May 27, 2007

Blogger gr said...

Oh yes, MOI, I live one way and push another. The missus and I don't need anything, and don't want anything, therefore we don't get much. BUT, it is the nature of my business, of course, to push gifts at the world. But at least they are useful, and genuinely hand-made.
BTW, the old house here came with 2 bathrooms and I don't plan on bricking the second one up..

Monday, May 28, 2007

Blogger Richard said...

I grew up with David Suzuki and The Nature of Things in the 70s and 80s. Although, in the 80s I found him becoming increasingly preachy. By the 90s, I thought he had lost credibility (a view shared by another dilettante friend of mine). Mind you, an environmental biologist (invasive species) friend of mine defers comment by saying he is not qualified to comment in that area.

I definitely agree everyone should reduce their environmental footprint. I always have. I find the profligate attitudes and behaviour of the western world inexcusable. Take what you need and no more and do no harm.

However, I am in strident disagreement with the alarming conclusions environmentalists paint - especially regarding global warming (sorry, climate change - this way, no matter what happens, they are right). Be a good citizen because it is the right thing to do, not because you have been scared into doing it.

I have a challenge for you. Reducing waste. In Ottawa, Susana and I (Susana is Sofia's cousin and lives in the house with me) produce less than 1 Loblaws bag of garbage per week. I find it terribly embarrassing to haul my garbage can with just one little back at the bottom of it. My house produces the least garbage on the block. (In Montreal, Sofia produces more garbage than I would like, but it amounts to 1 black garbage bag per week). Do you think you could reduce your waste production to 1 shopping bag or less of garbage per week?

By the way, tips 7, 8, and 9 are just different facets of the same.

Monday, May 28, 2007

Blogger Mother of Invention said...

Twilite: Thanks. I like #5 too and I do it as much as possible in my small town. Some things just aren't produced here.

Jocelyn: This list is a good start at least. You are in a position to help instill a kinder attitude towards our earth in young people. Last week here, they had a huge hug-a-tree-a-thon that raised $5,000 for the Suzuki Foundation!

Old Old Lady of the Hills: Yes, I found him so.

Gr: A lot of your raw material is clay isn't it? So that's not bad. Okay, we'll let you keep the 2nd bathroom.we're putting one in soon on the main floor for when we get old and crippled...not far off some days!

Richard: Yes, # 5-9 are closely related as is the whole issue's smaller [arts. I think these could even be further broken down into specifics because many simply don't know how to go about in # 1...many need to know exactly how to do lights, best times of day to use appliances,best way to heat, types of windows, use of water for lawns, etc.

My take is that if he sounds preachy, then so be it..the things he preaches may be as important as what church ministers preach.
In fact how do we know that David isn't guided to do "God's Work" in the form he is using? "He" might have good reason to use Suzuki in this way to get us to preserve the planet "He" created. I guess I'm saying that in this case, the ends justifies the means. If preserving the planet a bit better means Suzuki freaks us out in fear enough for us to act as we should be acting anyway as good citizens, but aren't, then more power to him. It will benefit the next generation and perhaps us too.

I am willing to go as far as to say that not many of us are qualified to comment and likely know far less than David.

As we don't have kids, we actually don't have even one garbage bag. We have a huge compost in our back yard and buy paper products in bulk to reduce packaging. With meat, that is difficult. We try to buy loose produce to reduce the shrink wrap garbage, but I wish they'd provide more paper bags in which to weigh and carry it. Most of our refuse is recycled actually. (Aluminum is the biggest pain when it's got gunk on it.) My husband's office has very little garbage too....but it is mostly paper towels at sink garbage and head paper on the tables and I don't think it's recycable or be any better burned ..guess we could find out. I put my needles and his acupuncture needles in a special container and take it to the drugstore. Anyway, bottom lone is that we don't actually generate much garbage....not like some houses. And why would you be embarrassed to put out such little garbage?

Monday, May 28, 2007

Blogger Mona Buonanotte said...

I love what this man has to say! I can't stand seeing the acres of McMansions spreading out in the farmland around here...all big houses and no yards. Pffft.

Tuesday, May 29, 2007

Blogger mystic rose said...

I know of him, Dr Suzuki. what I like most baout him is not just his passion for preserving our earth, but they was he is balanced about it. Its good we ahve epoeple like him to be our consicence, to ask whether if I am doing the best I can to make sure we conserve what we have, atleast.

collective greed.. :) Its more like we are all , each one of us, greedy in our individual way, for our space, and our comfort.

Tuesday, May 29, 2007

Blogger Richard said...

I am so glad to hear you put out so little garbage. It is not common. At least not on any of the streets I know. I always find it is the older people who put out the most garbage.

My neighbours in Montreal (a retired couple) put out at least four bulging black bags per week. I can't understand what they are putting in it – never mind the yard waste and recyclables on top of that.

My parents (when they were both living – now there is only my dad) produce almost no garbage – composting most of it (then again, they live out in the country). Sofia will never go for composting (it was hard enough to get her to accept hanging out clothes to dry - and I am the only one who does it, so I have to get to the laundry before she does).

I am not really embarrassed about putting out so little garbage (I am just being self-effacing).

Knowledge is something we can all acquire; it is not the exclusive purview of a privileged elite. I believe that if I don't know something, I can always acquire the knowledge.

Asking questions is vital. Continual learning is vital. Looking at things from different perspectives is essential. We can too easily be blinded by a narrow vision. Humans are very, very good at interpreting information to their advantage - one has only to look at all the differing interpretations of scared texts by well learned scholar. Science isn't really any different. There is no such thing as pure facts. Facts by themselves are meaningless. Facts must be expressed and interpreted within a context. Contexts are a human creation and necessarily coloured by bias.

I also don't believe in cajoling people into doing the right thing - this sort of mentality is what lead Christians to kill heretics in order to save them from their own sinfulness. (Notwithstanding that I believe people should naturally comport themselves in such manner that they do not infringe the rights and space of others.)

I should point out that I believe Suzuki believes what he is preaching, but I think his conclusions are wrong and fueled by a pessimistic ideology. And, yeah, he has way more credentials and credibility than I do, but I still think he is wrong.

Tuesday, May 29, 2007

Blogger Mother of Invention said...

Mona: I really hate McMansions too...Just greed need.

Mystic: Yes, he nudges our conscience for sure!

Richard: You're tends to be older people who haven't had the info. In other ways, the older are better at conserving as per their upbringing in war time.

Composting takes more effort in the winter because it's a long icy path to the composter, but it's doable if you keep a smaller one right outside the door and make the weekly trip down. We get a lot of good gardening soil from our compost. Compost is a big bulk of our garbage next to packaging. It makes me mad at how much packaging there is that we have no say in and few if any alternatives.

We do need to get the knowledge out there to both young (mostly via parents and teachers) and old (via families and neighbours)

We also need to talk to each other to get the different perspectives as we are doing now.

We cajole young kids and the elderly all the time and it is usually for their own good. I see what you're saying, but I like the fact that people are finally listening at least, and are discussing these issues as we are here, without burying our heads.

Suszuki loves that this is happening. At the presentation, our massage therapist, who was the one who arranged for him to come and picked him up from the airport, took him fishing etc.,she sent people out to get him food and they brought back Sushi in STYRAFOAM! 3 containers of it were sitting RIGHT beside where he was signing books and I took pictures without noticing. Then when I saw them on the computer and showed her, saying it was such a paradox type juxtaposition, she said that he's actually loved it since it would get people noticing and talking. She said, he's very real and he's not always above accepting certain situations that just happen for whatever reason that aren't in keeping with his philosophy. (He did say he wouldn't step in her car if it was an SUV!) He's all about raising consciousness, and he's done that well.

I still think he's pretty cool. I wish you could meet him and pose your view!
Anyway, he's retiring now, and next year, she's getting his 27 year-old daughter, who can appeal more to the younger generation.

Tuesday, May 29, 2007

Blogger Barbara said...

We could all do with so much less. We are definitely the children of abundance.

Tuesday, May 29, 2007

Blogger brooksba said...

There's a lot of good ideas that he has. It is scary how far we've gone in this world without recognizing the consequences as a society.

At least I do two of the things on his list of 10 - fuel efficient car and close to work.

Wednesday, May 30, 2007

Blogger Richard said...

I suspect a lot of this is generational, with seeds planted in the young (at least in Canada) back in the 70s. Don't you remember environmental information packets being given out in grade school back in the 70s.

I am wondering if I have the comic book they distributed. It featured two kids who find this warm, glowing stone which gives them super human powers. They use this to fix environmental problems (like finishing public transit infrastructure). At the end, they travel to the future (1999 or 2000, I think) to show a bleak worn out and wasted world. When they return to the present, they discover the stone has lost its power because all energy is finite.

Anyway, all this was planted in young kids minds (programs from the time also featured similar themes - I know Doctor Who from that time had quite a number of environmentally themed stories).

I should point out that the notion of an overburdened Earth has been around for a while (we can go further back than Malthus):

"There was a time when the countless tribes of men, though wide- dispersed, oppressed the surface of the deep-bosomed earth, and Zeus saw it and had pity and in his wise heart resolved to relieve the all-nurturing earth of men by causing the great struggle of the Ilian war, that the load of death might empty the world." – Cypria or Kypria, 7th or 8th century BCE.

"What most frequently meets our view (and occasions complaint), is our teeming population: our numbers are burdensome to the world, which can hardly supply us from its natural elements; our wants grow more and more keen, and our complaints more bitter in all mouths, whilst Nature fails in affording us her usual sustenance. In very deed, pestilence, and famine, and wars, and earthquakes have to be regarded as a remedy for nations, as the means of pruning the luxuriance of the human race;" – Tertullian, Treatise on the Soul, 2nd or 3rd century CE.

Wednesday, May 30, 2007

Blogger Mother of Invention said...

Barbara: We could, but how can we break out of this affluence and expectation?

brooksba: "Don't it always seem to go, that we don't..." Good for you on the car!

Richard: Okay, sorta..I was in Gr. 9 by 1968. I remember a lot came out from Ont. Hydro when I taught gr. 7 in '81.

Yes, it's been around since the beginning and is all relative. But sdo we dare call its bluff again? No..we should struggle with this one and struggle we will. I do love our Native Peoples'philosophy but it became to difficult to live by that once we came. I get a Wisdom every morning on e-mail from White Bison and this one was relevant:

Elder's Meditation of the Day - March 7
"We are responsible for the condition of the Earth. We are the ones who are responsible and we can change that. If we wake up, it is possible to change the energy. It is possible to change everything."
--Hunbatz Men, MAYAN
The environment we want outside will be created by the mental pictures we have inside out heads. We must have the right environmental picture as well as the right values. These values will give the mental picture its true meaning. If we respected Mother Earth, we would not throw garbage on Her, nor would we put poison in Her. We would not misuse Her in any way. Mother Earth is like She is today because of the mental pictures of previous generations as well as the mental pictures of our own generation. If we want the environment to change, each individual must change their mental picture. "As within, so without."

Great Spirit, today, let me be alert to Your guiding voice.

Wednesday, May 30, 2007

Blogger Richard said...

Ah, you are significantly older than me. I was in grade 3 in 1974. So it is highly likely you missed that wave of indoctrinal propaganda (I was the first generation, in Quebec at any rate, of students raised in metric).

I did not say just because people have been falsely raising alarms for the past, oh, 3000 years or so, that we should immediately discount the current round of doomsayers. I just want reasoned debate and investigation, not emotional reactions. Besides, it is dumb to argue from previous warnings. I only brought it up, because I think it is an interesting historical bit of trivia. (Incidentally, every generation thinks it is more enlightened than the previous - knows more, has better information.)

To repeat again, I am not against responsible stewardship of the planet; I always have been. I am against what I perceive as incorrect information and hysteria - the primary being that increased CO2 leads to temperature increase. The historical record (ice core samples) shows that increased temperature leads to increased CO2. This puts me in the uncomfortable position of being a CO2-global warming skeptic, yet actively doing what I can to reduce my impact on this planet because it is the right thing to do (on a tangent, the Skeptical Inquirer recently published a position paper in support of anthropogenic global warming - hmmm, so much for being skeptical).

I agree with those sayings - especially the second. However, I believe that change must be genuine and that change must be because it is the right thing to do, not because people are scared and suddenly discover "religion". We know that such people quickly lose their faith soon after the crisis is over.

A constant war of terror and escalating dangers brings us to the world described by George Orwell in 1984, where fear rules peoples lives and adherence to ideology is tantamount. Be a good citizen or something might happen to you.

Granted this is how societies have functioned for, well, ever. Create enemies. Create threats. Keep the populace scared and on the edge because they can not be trusted to do the right thing.

Wednesday, May 30, 2007

Blogger Annelisa said...

Global warming and the enviroment are big topics in school now... every year projects on these topics are done for weeks on end... I spend a lot of time cutting out articles!

I got my house done just before christmas, insulation - wise. Unfortunately, they couldn't do the attic, as there was so much stuff up there, and no-where to move it to even for the while they would be insulating, but definately not afterwards, but I console myself that there is so much clutter up there, it is acting as an insulation anyhow! :-D

Wednesday, May 30, 2007

Blogger Mother of Invention said...

Richard: Yes, sad to say that I am an old babe! HA! Teaching in metric was difficult for me!

All the previous warnings is very interesting and we can see some full circles perhaps, and hopefully no dead ends.

Well, if and when you perceive this present info as correct, at least you won't have to scurry around and make hasty changes; you would have already been doing these things and decreasing your ecological footprint.

(BTW, did you not think Al Gore's movie displayed correct info, or did it not convince you at all that this trend and where it's headed may be just a little different than all the previous times the earth's gone through similar changes?)

I think the Native people would still be treating the Earth in a better way than we are had we not influenced them. They definitely hadn't the knowledge or enlightenment we have but still somehow knew it was the right way to think and act.

What if it's going to happen to us whether we are good citizens or not? This whole global energy problem and its ultimate effect will happen to all, not just some of us.

As always, you have raised some different points for consideration and I don't happen to know anyone else who thinks this way, but there may be more than I think. In the end, I don't know what will really happen and I have not actually witnessed the data for myself and I'm not ever going to, but it makes sense to me.

Annelisa: You are probably more well-versed in this topic than many.

Oh man, then my attic's over-insulated!!

Wednesday, May 30, 2007

Blogger Rapunzel said...

Wonderful post! I am embarrassed that I've never heard of him before, but I'll certainly be looking and listening for him now.

Thursday, May 31, 2007

Blogger Richard said...

I have not seen An Inconvenient Truth. However, I doubt it presents any additional "evidence" I have not already seen. My impression is that it is an evangelization film (big on hype and short on fact).

My main contention is the correlation between CO2 and temperature. The historical record shows temperature changes first, then CO2 follows suite. The principle argument in favour of global warming shows a short timeframe (100-150 years) and point out that CO2 and temperature are rising. Then they conclude CO2 is driving the temperature (ignoring 400,000+ years of ice core data).

Global temperatures appear to be rising. CO2 is a good explanation, but it doesn't fit the historical data. I happen to be in the camp of those who believe it is solar activity which is driving the warming. Is there any external evidence to indicate the sun might be responsible? Well, Mars is warming as well as Pluto. Jupiter and Saturn are showing more and new storms.

Is climate change bad? No. Climates are not static and continually change and that is neither good nor bad, it just is. As Marcus Aurelius put it, "For the thrown stone, there is no more good in rising than there is evil in falling." Or "To be in the process of change is no more an evil than to be the product of change is a good."

Of course, you should always accept that which makes sense (after all, I believe what I believe because it is true, not because it is convenient or trendy). However, for me, acceptance is merely a temporary resting spot (as the saying goes, "A conclusion is just the place you got tired of thinking."). If the conclusion is good, it will stand up against the test of time and new information, if not, then it is time to move on.

Of course, I am doing my part by sequestering carbon (in the form of books) in my basement (much to Sofia's chagrin).

A friend of mine, who is a year older, says he got all messed up with the change to metric. On the other hand, I have no problem with either system (unless you start talking obscure measures like drams and groats and rods).

Thursday, May 31, 2007

Blogger Mother of Invention said...

Okay, now I really want you to see that movie just to find out whether you think it emotional and not factual. I thought it was totally lacking emotion...actually a bit dry but the facts kept coming and it held my attention nonetheless. You could have heard a pin drop in the theatre.

Doesn't Sofia have collections of carbon? (Besides any diamonds!! My diamond is a whopping .23 c and doesn't amount to much carbonjewel! Kinda like kilojoule is for food!)
BTW, Does she agree with you?

Anyway, time will tell and that will be long after we're gone.

I love how you always seem to have quotes to parallel or exemplify various topics and vantage points right at your fingertips! You must have an amazing memory.

Thursday, May 31, 2007

Blogger GrizzBabe said...

I've never heard of him but this Suzuki fella seems like someone I would enjoy getting to know. I'll try to keep more of a look out for him in the future.

Saturday, June 02, 2007

Blogger Mother of Invention said...

Grizz: He's Canada's Al Gore.

Saturday, June 02, 2007

Anonymous David said...

Terrific post! I'm a bit ashamed to admit I don't know this Dr. Suzuki. In fact, when I say the title, my mind started thinking this was going to be a post about the Suzuki method of teaching a musical instrument.

1 thing to add to your list is to use CFL (compact fluorescent bulb) bulbs instead of the standard one. They are like 6 times more energy efficient and last a lot longer.

Monday, June 04, 2007

Blogger Richard said...

Sofia and I do not always view things the same way. She has heard of global warming, but, like most people, does not spend a whole lot of time thinking or researching it (unlike me, who has been following it pretty closely for the past 18 years or so, since it made its appearance - before that we had the ozone hole, acid rain, global cooling, DDT, etc). It is easier for her to simply accept what someone else (not me) tells her. Of course, her suspicion of me might be because I am so far out from the mainstream and lack proper credentials for so many of my opinions.

She has expressed interest in seeing An Inconvenient Truth (although, I suspect this has more to do with it having won an Academy Award). I think it would be good for her to see it.

Sofia and I have different outlooks on conservation. We had an argument (several actually) over my installing a clothesline (It looks ugly! Only poor people hang clothes to dry. That was in the past. The clothes are not soft. The clothes are all wrinkled. etc). And I am the only one who uses it. So I have to get to the laundry before Sofia.

We also disagree over herbicides and pesticides. I point out that dandelions go for $1.99 at Loblaws. She insists they are weeds. Fortunately, I have kept my lawns herbicide and pesticide free (although Sofia considers the lawn in Ottawa a disaster because there are a lot of dandelions in late Spring, early summer, as well as large patches of clover). In Montreal, I have to weed by hand so we can have the same manicured green lawn that all our toxic neighbours have.

CFLs (compact fluorescent lights) were another issue. She does not like their slow start up time (some take up to a second to come on).

The only place she is more conscious than me is water (sort of). Peru is a very water poor country, so water is scarce. I cannot shave or brush my teeth without her turning off the water and telling me house precious it is (however, she thinks nothing of watering the lawn - in fact, it is necessary to keep it green, just like the neighbours. Ok, ok, she will argue it looks ugly when it is brown a dead. I tell her that a nice bed of clover will stay green with significantly less water. No show). As well, she likes to buy bottled water. This makes me upset for two reasons: (1) I am totally and completely opposed to any sort of commodification of water. I believe it is a resource and right of all people to have clean drinking water, not just those who can afford it. (2) The plastic bottles are an environmental nightmare. I am sorry, but plastic does not recycle, regardless of what we are told. You cannot take a plastic bottle and make a new plastic bottle from it. Plastic cannot be cleaned and made hygienic the way glass or metal can. Plastic cannot be reformed (if you read about plastic products using upto 10% recycled material, the recycled material is the plastic waste internal to the factory. It is the flash and sprues from the moulding process, it is not somebody's grimy old bottle).

Monday, June 04, 2007

Blogger Mother of Invention said...

David: Thanks. You never watched The Nature of Things down there?

We're all switching to those bulbs too. The LED flashlights and decoration lights are a funny blueish tone that I don't like though.

Richard: Man, you guys are pretty diverse on a lot.
There are lots of studies that say the water in bottles is no better than tapwater anyway. What you say about plastic bottles makes sense, but then what do they do with all the bottles we put in blue boxes?

The lawn watering is really at odds with the saving water thing. Do you have water restrictions there? We can only water every 2nd day from 7-9 p.m. I like the bed of clover idea! You might even find some 4-leaf clovers!

I wish I had a laundry line! I love the fresh smell.

Take her to see An Inconvenient Truth...or rent it when it comes out.

Monday, June 04, 2007

Blogger Richard said...

The only use I know of for recycled plastics is building material. Essentially chopped up plastic pressed together with glue to form lumber and other building materials (kind of like chipboard, particle-board or MDF).

I did a search and also found a company manufacturing a plastic sheet (for gardening use) with an upper layer of virgin plastic and a lower layer of recycled plastic.

As far as I know, that good feeling you get from recycling plastic bottles is really misplaced. Plastics are not really recyclable. They can be reused - that is what I mostly do with plastic containers.

You can search for recycled products here.

We have no water restrictions in Ottawa or Montreal. In Ottawa, I have to pay for water. In Montreal, the water is free (at least in the municipality we live in).

Every couple has differences. I am not terribly concerned about them.

From pictures of what I believe is your place, you should have plenty of room to put out a clothesline or one of those umbrella dryers.

Tuesday, June 05, 2007


Post a Comment

<< Home